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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

May 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
Eklund: Calgary Off-Season Could Come Down To Gaudreau Or Mangiapane. Buzz@1
Eklblad
Florida Panthers
Location: PleaseUpdatesTheCSSWith:overflow-wrap:break-word;, AL
Joined: 03.29.2021

May 27 @ 11:08 AM ET
of course you would pick the flames to win
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 27 @ 11:10 AM ET
Crosby had one Cup at McDavid's age.
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

May 27 @ 11:21 AM ET
While McDavid has only won 1 series prior to this, Matthews has won ZERO. He's the guy you said was better than McDavid. That was a month ago. You also said Skinner NEEDED to replace Mike Smith after Game 1. And of course remember how Nashville was apparently lucky that they avoided Markstrom and got to face the mediocre Kuemper. Not a good track record.

You've been saying Gaudreau is leaving for years. I doubt it. Fully expect him to re-sign this summer. But if he does go, Mangiapane is a huge downgrade. He's nothing more than a solid 2nd line winger. Gaudreau and the top line drew all the top defensive shutdown opponents, allowing Mangiapane to benefit from weaker competition. Promote Mangiapane to the 1st line and his production diminishes.
OilyJay
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.31.2015

May 27 @ 12:03 PM ET
They suck anyway. I hope they find a way to bring back the whole team as it is and their over the hill out of answers coach.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

May 27 @ 12:04 PM ET
I have a feeling Lucic won't be back...IMO he may retire. They have a huge decision to make over Tkachuk. Do they commit $70 to $80 million on a long term contract ? IMO, keep johnny if they can, move Tkachuk if they can get something decent. Mangiapane won't be too expensive yet. Maybe a two year deal for $4.5 per.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 27 @ 12:05 PM ET
Gaudreau is a very good offensive player. Not strong in his defensive responsibility. Appears to have failed to pick up his check on the winning goal last night. My guess is Calgary will quietly let him walk.

Someone will likely pay him top money in the $8m+ range. Whoever pays out the big bucks will come to regret it soon enough.

Problem is not the initial load of a big dollar contract. The problem is term. It may be okay to pay a 28 year old underweight skater $8m. - $9m. Problem comes when you run the commitment through to age 35.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 27 @ 12:28 PM ET
Some of these contract predictions makes me think it would be a good idea to check Evolving Hockey's contract projections to see how close or far off they are compared to the experts.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
Evolving Hockey contract prediction for the 3 key Calgary players:

Player - Prediction - Average Prediction

Mangiapane 5 years @ $5.8M per, 5 years @ $5.8M per
Tkachuk 8 years @ $11M per, 6 years @ $10.4M per
Gaudreau 8 years @ $11.6M per, 7 years at $10.9M per
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

May 27 @ 12:55 PM ET
Gaudreau is a very good offensive player. Not strong in his defensive responsibility. Appears to have failed to pick up his check on the winning goal last night. My guess is Calgary will quietly let him walk.

Someone will likely pay him top money in the $8m+ range. Whoever pays out the big bucks will come to regret it soon enough.

Problem is not the initial load of a big dollar contract. The problem is term. It may be okay to pay a 28 year old underweight skater $8m. - $9m. Problem comes when you run the commitment through to age 35.

- spatso


He was a plus 64 or something like that. Sutter called him his best defensive forward at one point last season. He actually is strong defensively.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 27 @ 1:13 PM ET
Suck it all offseason 1230.
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

May 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
Evolving Hockey contract prediction for the 3 key Calgary players:

Player - Prediction - Average Prediction

Mangiapane 5 years @ $5.8M per, 5 years @ $5.8M per
Tkachuk 8 years @ $11M per, 6 years @ $10.4M per
Gaudreau 8 years @ $11.6M per, 7 years at $10.9M per

- kingcong39


Ham & cheese
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 2:20 PM ET
Ham & cheese
- glove_was_stuck

That's his bonus if he scores 40g
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA
Joined: 04.27.2011

May 27 @ 2:28 PM ET
That's his bonus if he scores 40g
- eichiefs9



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 27 @ 2:33 PM ET
Gaudreau is a very good offensive player. Not strong in his defensive responsibility. Appears to have failed to pick up his check on the winning goal last night. My guess is Calgary will quietly let him walk.

Someone will likely pay him top money in the $8m+ range. Whoever pays out the big bucks will come to regret it soon enough.

Problem is not the initial load of a big dollar contract. The problem is term. It may be okay to pay a 28 year old underweight skater $8m. - $9m. Problem comes when you run the commitment through to age 35.

- spatso


8M for Gaudreau? Why would he sign a deal that cheap? Unless he takes a huge discount to stay in Calgary. Add a couple more mil at least.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 27 @ 3:13 PM ET

- glove_was_stuck

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 27 @ 3:36 PM ET
There are only a few players in the league worth 10 million, Gaudreau isn't one of them.
Joe Nardone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Medicine Hat
Joined: 07.05.2018

May 27 @ 4:16 PM ET
Not sure why anyone thinks Johnny Hockey can’t play d. Not saying he is Stone or Bergeron, but defense is not a weakness.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

May 27 @ 4:18 PM ET
There are only a few players in the league worth 10 million, Gaudreau isn't one of them.
- Reubenkincade


UFA is usually silly season....
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

May 27 @ 5:38 PM ET
Gaudreau is a very good offensive player. Not strong in his defensive responsibility. Appears to have failed to pick up his check on the winning goal last night. My guess is Calgary will quietly let him walk.

Someone will likely pay him top money in the $8m+ range. Whoever pays out the big bucks will come to regret it soon enough.

Problem is not the initial load of a big dollar contract. The problem is term. It may be okay to pay a 28 year old underweight skater $8m. - $9m. Problem comes when you run the commitment through to age 35.

- spatso

Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

May 27 @ 5:40 PM ET
Evolving Hockey contract prediction for the 3 key Calgary players:

Player - Prediction - Average Prediction

Mangiapane 5 years @ $5.8M per, 5 years @ $5.8M per
Tkachuk 8 years @ $11M per, 6 years @ $10.4M per
Gaudreau 8 years @ $11.6M per, 7 years at $10.9M per

- kingcong39


That would be a good way to destroy Calgary's future.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

May 27 @ 6:02 PM ET
They have a huge decision to make over Tkachuk. Do they commit $70 to $80 million on a long term contract ? IMO, keep johnny if they can, move Tkachuk if they can get something decent. Mangiapane won't be too expensive yet. Maybe a two year deal for $4.5 per.


My thoughts exactly! If StLou wants Matty, get Kyrou, Perunavich, and a 2nd for Matty and let them have te headache of signing him.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 27 @ 6:33 PM ET

- glove_was_stuck

Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

May 27 @ 7:20 PM ET
If Calgary somehow decides to keep Gaudreau, they won’t be able to bring back Magiapane and given the amount of ice-time Sutter gave Mangiapane maybe Sutter will chose to move on and trade him while his value is at its greatest…


Sutter will choose to move on and trade him? He's not the GM this time. He's just the coach.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: Supercharged engine powered by high octane butthurt
Joined: 01.29.2013

May 27 @ 7:32 PM ET
Calgary just broke my bracket in the West.

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